帮我了解激进验收

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Radical 接受ance just seems like a bunch of bullshit to me, but apparently it really helps some people. 的way I understand it, it's just taking something unchangeable in your life 和 saying It Is 什么 It Is 和 then magically feeling zero emotions about it from them on.

的typical example is being caught in traffic. You can rage against the traffic, which won't make the traffic move any faster 和 will just rile you up for no reason. Just turn on the radio 和 sing along instead. If you're late for that important interview, you're just gonna be late. T.S. 走 t it. I can do that.

我不能做的是根本地接受生活中对我而言有意义的事件。我应该去处理这些使我烦恼的事件,直到我无动于衷地死去。不知何故,总是神奇地。

我了解这与佛教的宁静概念有关。但是佛陀承认,保持镇定非常困难。 Marsha Linehan似乎认为我们都应该神奇地做到这一点,不管遇到什么困扰我们。没有人在谈论激进的接受似乎以任何方式都很难。

而且,据我了解,激进的接受意味着切断我们对发生在我们身上的最坏事情的情绪。但是我以为我们应该尝试去感受自己的情绪?在我塞满被虐待的所有事情的15年中,我似乎确实不小心练习了激进验收。激进的接受告诉我,我应该再次把自己的感情压低吗?

Supposedly there's a difference between resignation 和 接受ance. Seems like a lot of bullshit. If you can't change something, you're resigned to the fact that it happened. Radical 接受ance tells me, no, that's the wrong way to feel about it. I should 接受, not Be Resigned. If there's a difference, I'm not understanding it.

请向我解释激进接受不是胡扯。向我解释这怎么可能。
 
恐怕我无法集中精力阅读所有以上文章,但希望这是有道理的。

对我来说,我最无法接受的是"接受并不意味着批准"。我倾向于否认自己的经历,并听取我内心的批评,因为他们不同意我的感受。始终没有采取激进的接受态度一直被认为是康复的障碍,尤其是在医院。我需要接受一些可怕的事情发生,我有非常强烈的感觉,并且这些感觉给我造成了目前的困难。我正在尽一切努力避免承认所有这些,并在逃避一切时伤害自己。它的主要用语是消除治愈的障碍,而不是说激进的接受本身就是治愈。我做过DBT,它还与固定和宿命论思想,具有挑战性的思想和行为等概念联系在一起。我不能改变什么,可以改变什么,我愿意接受吗?

I think like most things 激进 接受ance can answer some questions but not all 和 it can be picked up 和 dropped to meet your needs as they change 和 sometimes will feel a thousand miles away 和 then other times makes more sense.
 

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I am also not a fan of 激进 接受ance but I get what it is 和 where it is useful.

If I find myself in an uncontrollable, unalterable situation, 激进 接受ance is THE tool to use to get along with life. Things like a cancer diagnosis, a house on fire, being incarcerated, things that are going to have an affect on you no matter how you react, so it is best to control the only thing you can control 和 that is your reaction.

当涉及到暂时性事物时,它会迅速消失。

我知道我的卡车终有一天会变成废料堆,但事实并不要求我接受它并无需维护就将废品运出。我可以选择仔细地驱动它,并在需要时进行维护,并且废料堆可以在海湾存放数年。这是否意味着我从根本上接受了卡车的本质并做了正确的事情,而不是只是因为对卡车显示出年龄和需要的照顾而生气?不,我买了它是因为知道它需要维护,而且这不是我的最后一辆卡车。我完全接受卡车的性质,就像我完全接受卡车中的汽油,钱包里的钱,车轮下的道路一样。生活本身是短暂的。

与人相同。我知道人际关系有终结的一天,我知道那一天有时候,我希望那个终结发生的时候。我知道,当我还没准备好时,终点可能会逼近我。这就是人与人之间关系的本质。随它吧。但是接受这就是我觉得我需要接受的全部。我可以而且会影响到其他任何事情。如果有人做我喜欢的事情,我会展示并分享它带来的快乐。如果某人做了我不喜欢的事情,我也会证明。也许一次,也许两次或三次。在那之后,在大多数情况下,我已经准备好使关系达到预定的结局。

对我而言,接受这个词本身就具有负面含义;谁将幸福压在他们身上?如果在这种情况下使用接受一词,则必须按照以下方式进行修改:"happily 接受" or "accepted eagerly". Just the word alone implies that you are not doing it eagerly. 的word 激进 implies total 和 complete, it is the full measure of the word "accept"。这超出正常范围"accept" 和 implies "maximum measure of 接受ance"

I think it should be called Unavoidable 接受ance. It makes sense to me when you state up front that it isn't a solution for everything that needs to be met with an 接受ing 和 controlled reaction, it is the tool you rely on when there is no other reaction that works besides 接受ance.

You say 激进 接受ance, I hear "不可避免的情况工具,使我能够最好地应对接下来发生的事情". I do not hear "turn the other cheek", I do not hear "你无法改变他们的行为,所以要学会忍受". I hear "You can 和 will 接受 this, do it wisely", it is unavoidable but you can choose to react any way you want, 接受 it 和 make good decisions about it 和 you will be better of for it.
 

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Radical 接受ance is an idea I struggle with. My fear of helplessness bleeds out into a struggle with 激进 接受ance. 另外,这个词"acceptance"通常用于达成协议...也就是说,我可以与您的回覆相关。

I agree with what others have explained. It's not healthy 激进 接受ance to be resigned or divorce ones self from emotions 和 feelings. Feelings are not facts but they are information. Radical 接受ance isn't done in a healthy way if it's about resignation 和 not feeling the pain. That's just numbing out by another name.

I also think there are limits to benefits of the practice. Radical 接受ance, mindfulness, etc, all these initially spiritual practice inspired therapeutic techniques don't work for everyone. That's true of all coping skills. (Example: 正念的阴暗面:越来越多的证据表明该疗法可能有害

如果它对您不起作用,那没关系-针对您的具体情况,可能会有更好的工具。

I have found it helpful to build up a version of 激进 接受ance in my life. For me, it's more like the saying of "接受我无法改变的事物,并勇于改变我可以改变的事物。"

There are situations for which 激进 接受ance should not be applied. Easy example: l am not supposed to just 激进ly 接受 it will hurt every time a boyfriend hits me. Nope nopers. Instead, the mix of 接受ance for what I can't change (other people) 和 that it hurts (instead of claiming it does not) 和 taking responsibility for what I can change (my actions 和 how I respond) is what is going to help me respond most effectively to an abusive situation.

I don't know what types of situations you are struggling with 激进 接受ance. It might be possible that some of what you may be feeling resigned about may be things your feelings are trying to prompt you towards action.

To use a more mixed example: I have an alcoholic family tree. When I first went on a dare from a friend I did not want to 接受 my father is an alcoholic I can't change. Nope, too much pain. I was also allergic to the idea of resigning myself to the situation as is. Big nope there too.

但是我学会了放手改变他-我永远无法改变。太痛了。我不知道这是否会改变。但是现在...当我可以自己做的时候,"接受我无法改变的东西 "感觉就像是通往自由的道路。这非常脆弱,但是我发现我想要更多这种能力来做到这一点。我已经接受了我无法改变他的想法,并且开始研究可以改变的东西。我该如何有效地回应。我需要什么支持来处理无尽的痛苦。这不是辞职,而是悲伤,但接受也与行动有关。没那么多"it is what it is" as it's "f * ck。这很伤人。我想解决这个问题,但我做不到"然后找出对这种情况和我感到非常痛苦的有效应对措施。 (我仍在整理中。)

一位治疗师告诉我这是关于"接受不可接受的"-我还没整理出来...大声笑。
 

Whiteraven

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我认为人们对激进的接受(以及正念)感到困惑的一件事是,他们认为自己不得不忽略或不承认自己的感受。实际上,您必须承认自己的感受;你不做的就是抓住它们,抓住它们,直到有人试图从你身上摔跤,通过增加他们的故事使它们变得比它们更大,等等。"yep, I am pissed off" - hard stop - than "该死的,我很生气,如果他没有做xyz,那也不会太糟," 和 "因为一切都搞砸了,我现在该怎么办?"

可能需要一段时间才能克服这种感觉,但是至少我不会通过添加它来使它变得更糟。

对我来说,这使治疗变得容易得多。对我来说,它不是来自我的治疗师。它来自我内心深处。
 

Whiteraven

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I know my truck will end up on a scrap heap someday but that fact doesn't require me to just 接受 it 和 drive the crap out of it with no maintenance.
It's not this at all, though. It's 接受ing that you are having an issue with your car 和 not getting crazy about it. 接受ance here doesn't negate the need to do maintenance - or therapy, or whatever - it just means you won't make it harder for yourself by adding a bunch of additional issues/feelings to it.
 

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It's not this at all, though. It's 接受ing that you are having an issue with your car 和 not getting crazy about it. 接受ance here doesn't negate the need to do maintenance - or therapy, or whatever - it just means you won't make it harder for yourself by adding a bunch of additional issues/feelings to it.
Aaaannd thats my point. 这是暂时的事情,我与机器之间的关系。 I know going in that there will be a beginning 和 an end 和 I can choose all the options at any time within the relationship. Radical 接受ance is as useless here as it is in any transitory situation. Life itself is like this, most things in life are.

除非不是。诊断为致命疾病,世界大流行,LWOP定罪,与完全接受并做出调整以适应和生存相比,与不可避免的疾病作斗争的可能性很多。这些情况,并且仅那些情况适用于根本接受。其他一切都只是放弃。屈服,并非总是最坏的选择,而是唯一的选择。如果这是唯一的选择,那么一定要(激进地)接受它并继续下去。
 

Whiteraven

我的PTSD专业版
这是暂时的事情,我与机器之间的关系。
我不确定你在这里是什么意思。 *所有*-您所说的-是暂时的。
其他一切都只是放弃。屈服
Hm...no. Radical 接受ance is not giving up or giving in. "Radically 接受ing" doesn't mean "well, I can't do 任何东西 about it anyway, so I'll just 接受 it." It's about 接受ing how you are *inside* with things. With the car breaking down, with the state of the world, etc...
 

侦察兵86

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Radical 接受ance is as useless here as it is in any transitory situation. Life itself is like this, most things in life are.
Isn't it a form of 激进 接受ance to 接受 that life is transitory? As much as I might want things not to change, they will. I can chose to pitch a fit about that. Or Not.
另外,这个词"acceptance"通常用于达成协议...
就我个人而言,我不是那样使用这个词的,但也许其他人会这样。我认为,出于"radical 接受ance"重要的是要记住,它们是两个截然不同的词,含义截然不同。

的"radical"部分,我与接受您真正反对的事物的真相的想法相关。我妈妈不太喜欢我。我可以挂断电话"那不是应该的样子!!!!! "但是有什么意义呢?没有人问我的意见,事实证明,没有宇宙规则说母亲必须真正爱自己的后代。似乎更好地接受事实,无论令人不愉快或不便,并随处携带。
 
希望我能保持简短的答复,尝试您是否愿意做一些隐喻的事情...

如果仅对我自己(也许这将构成“激进”的角度),我对这一概念的使用可以比作​​电影的制作。试想一下,如果您手头上有一个非常复杂而有说服力的脚本-如果在整个生产和销售过程中都经过精心处理,肯定会赢得大奖。现在再想像一下,随着资金变得紧张,在选角,位置,布景设计,现场场景,摄影机角度,编辑等方面做出了可怕的选择。看来故事永远不会被告知,与核心故事所持有的兴趣和积极的批判分析相一致的努力永远不会被赋予价值。然后进入历史的垃圾箱。

啊-但是该脚本没有什么根本性的缺陷!数十年来,人们一直在进行精巧的重写,精炼,以便与机智的局外人共享草稿,这已变得精简而引人注目。一个人可以阅读它,并抓住巧妙地处理的复杂主题,并且以深知的眼睛植根于极其不舒服的主题上,而不是您的日常工作。人们远离糟糕的原始演员表的糟糕程度,充满原始感的原始乐谱,可怕的灯光和服装等,知道这里发生了一些重要的事情-即使大多数人会忽略它或陷入结构性缺陷中阻止了成功,也未能在当天赢得广泛好评。这个类比有点不同-是的,尽管它可能转化为激进接受​​的“接受”角度。

总而言之,手中的脚本具有最终价值,同时在字面意义上只是原始作品总体的局限性而已。有时,我们要获得的验证植根于已找到的家庭以及一个不断变化和发展的敬业心理基础。专业人士可帮助我们找到线索,并挑逗叙事内容,以进行处理并融入整体。除了最初的作品(原样糟透了)之外,对于实现正义或复仇的观念没有严格的希望-现在是关于改变我们的个人行为和观点,以期展望未来的岁月,人际关系和后代这样我们就可以亲自终止某些模式。这可能包括认识到创伤性回忆怒火,心理错位的力量和根源,并且表现出明显的表现。

没有什么是严格原谅的,在这里什么也没有忘记-距离它很远。您知道得分,知道尸体埋在哪里,而“原始演员”所证明的否认和躲闪是您已经研究并详细分类的内容。通过一些激进接受的概念而有所不同的是,人们相信它们一定会与原始演员完全融合在一起,并且总会以某种方式出现,就像周末晚上制作的过分的Hallmark名人堂。糟糕是我们故事的一部分,这常常令人沮丧和愤怒,威胁着改变和歪曲我们对可能的前瞻性的构想,但是接受这一信念涉及我们从现在开始将更加谨慎地处理脚本的信念。我们选择生活,发展,而把那些在毁灭自己和我们俩方面都扮演了角色的人搞砸了。祝你平安...

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Wondering what do you think of 激进 接受ance after everyone's replies @somerandomguy ?
我感谢每个人的答复。我想我能更好地理解我只是不在一个可以在工具箱中添加Radical 接受ance的地方。我仍然太生气了,毕竟这让我非常失望,我想我还没有准备好摆脱这种愤怒。我真的希望我可以-但是,我现在更好地理解了,具有讽刺意味的是,"wishing" I could do 任何东西 不能成为“基本接受”的一部分。
 
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